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Re @chrisgreybrexit @edwinhayward Even so it will be an important part of the pro-EU case in a future referendum that Brexit has been a predictable and humiliating failure. We tried Brexit and it didn’t work. Leavers should not be given a pass on this massive political vulnerability they created for themselves.

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Re @edwinhayward @chrisgreybrexit All the opinion-polling suggests that an increasing number of voters are coming to this conclusion anyway. It seems odd not to want to ride with the flow of most public opinion. Those who in 2030 still think that Brexit was a good idea are unlikely ever to change their mind.

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Re @edwinhayward @chrisgreybrexit I am not urging “lashing out.” I am simply saying that stressing the failure of Brexit is an important component of winning a referendum in 2030, particularly with young voters.

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Re @chrisgreybrexit @edwinhayward A referendum is not quite like that. In the context of a referendum there will be loud voices insisting that Brexit was and still is the right path. Their influence, if they are not robustly contradicted, should not be underestimated.

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Re @chrisgreybrexit @edwinhayward I think both elements will be necessary. “Learning through suffering” is after all a highly respectable part of the European cultural tradition.

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Re @chrisgreybrexit @edwinhayward By (say) 2030 many voters will have been too young to vote in 2016. Many who voted Leave in 2016 will be dead. And many who voted Leave in 2016 will have anyway forgotten how they voted in that year. The European issue will look very different in (say) seven years from now.

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Re @colinrtalbot The people who wish democratically to reverse Brexit are in the same position as Trump will be in 2024 when he trie to reverse the electoral outcome of 2020. Or perhaps Julia thinks Trump should not stand in 2024 because he lost in 2020 and should get over it.

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Re @LittleGravitas @RishiSunak @Conservatives Most strikingly, he doesn’t understand how Parliamentary democracy works if he thinks he can boast about the laws “I passed.”

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Re @jonlis1 @da1sy_alexander There is one positive outcome of the Farage farrago. It has reminded people not paying attention that today’s Conservative Party is a wholly owned subsidiary of the political and economic forces that spawned UKIP.

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Re @Mij_Europe @pmdfoster @AndyBounds We have been reminded recently that the “shadow” of which UKG is afraid takes highly material form, in the shape of Nigel Farage.

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Re @chrisgreybrexit There’s also more sinister aspect to this. Its links to business and finance used to give the Conservative Party a certain crude grounding in reality and rationality. Its unmooring from these sectors opens the way to the nasty ideological extremism we now see in the Party.

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Re @nickreeves9876 The UK is politically dysfunctional. If it were not then such support from Lebedev would be the end of Farage’s career and the end of Sunak’s as well.

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Re @Mij_Europe Sunak cannot be all that civilised a person if he so readily succumbs to pressure from his advisers to behave in a thoroughly uncivilised way.

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Re @APHClarkson Most Conservative politicians know that the next General Election is a lost cause. Anyone wanting to remain or become Party leader after the Election needs to stand well with the over-60s who make up most of the Conservative membership. Hence the appeal of “culture wars.”

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Re @NicholasTyrone He hopes to appeal to members of the Conservative Party and to the Conservative press. They are important to him if he wants to remain Leader of the Conservative Party, both now and in the future.

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The new video from the Rejoin EU Party is well worth a look and a listen. We discuss in it the latest Brexit developments, not least the Farage farrago. See Rejoin EU Brexit Round Up: Episode 3 youtu.be/ruLEpv5Fc6Y via @YouTube

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Re @APHClarkson The question will be which narrative gains the upper hand.Are frontier queues and new formalities at borders a result of the beastliness of Brexit or a result of the beastliness of the EU? I think we can guess who will be arguing for the latter hypothesis.

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Re @nialloconghaile Worth pointing out that British electors pay the salaries of British politicians and French electors pay the salaries of French politicians. French electors do not necessarily expect their politicians to help British politicians achieve what British electors want them to achieve.

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Re @NicholasTyrone I suspect he does believe that criticism from Remainers/Rejoiners will help him win the votes of Brexiters in Red Wall seats. He may be right in this cynical calculation. He will look pretty stupid if he isn’t.

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